Legislature(2021 - 2022)SENATE FINANCE 532

05/05/2021 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:03:16 AM Start
09:03:47 AM HB27
09:18:07 AM HB169
09:27:09 AM Presentation: Omb May 3, 2021 Amendments Op/cap/sup
01:05:21 PM SB49 || SB51
01:55:27 PM Adjourn
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+ HB 169 APPROP: EDUCATION; PUPIL TRANSPORTATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Presentation: OMB May 3, 2021 Amendments:
Op/Cap/Sup
+= HB 69 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
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+= HB 71 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
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+= HB 27 NAMING IRENE WEBBER BRIDGE TELECONFERENCED
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+= SB 49 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= SB 51 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
SENATE BILL NO. 49                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;    making   reappropriations;    making                                                                    
     supplemental   appropriations;  making   appropriations                                                                    
     under art.  IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution of  the State                                                                    
     of  Alaska,  from  the  constitutional  budget  reserve                                                                    
     fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 51                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive    mental    health    program;    making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations;  and   providing  for  an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:05:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman discussed  the  afternoon  portion of  the                                                                    
agenda.  The   committee  would   consider  adoption   of  a                                                                    
committee  substitute (CS)  for SB  49 and  SB 51  and would                                                                    
hear  a  fiscal  update  from LFD.  He  explained  that  the                                                                    
committee  had  been working  on  a  base budget  with  fund                                                                    
source exchanges, COVID-19 relief  funds, and transfers from                                                                    
other fiscal  years excluded.  The committee  would consider                                                                    
the  base  budget  with  recurring  revenues  and  recurring                                                                    
expenditures. The  CS would  include all  subcommittee work,                                                                    
and  he  would look  to  members  for amendments  and  other                                                                    
concerns to be submitted to his office by Friday.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Hoffman   MOVED   to  ADOPT   proposed   committee                                                                    
substitute  for   SB  49,  Work  Draft   32-GS1509\N  (Marx,                                                                    
5/4/21).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:07:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PETE  ECKLUND, STAFF,  SENATOR BERT  STEDMAN,  spoke to  the                                                                    
proposed CS. He  discussed the structure of  the bill, which                                                                    
had been  divided into sections  and groupings  for purposes                                                                    
clarity. There  was multiple  numbers sections.  He detailed                                                                    
that Section 1 through Section  3 were the regular operating                                                                    
budget,  which contained  the recommendations  from all  the                                                                    
Senate Finance  budget subcommittees. Section 2  and Section                                                                    
3  were  all   the  funding  source  roll-ups   of  all  the                                                                    
appropriations made in Section  1. He continued that Section                                                                    
4 through Section  6 were the number  sections operating and                                                                    
supplemental items,  and Section  5 and  Section 6  were the                                                                    
funding source  roll-ups for all the  supplemental operating                                                                    
items listed in Section 4.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund added  that Section 7 through Section  9 was the                                                                    
numbers section  for capital supplemental items.  Sections 8                                                                    
and  9 were  the funding  source 'roll  ups' of  all of  the                                                                    
supplemental capital items listed in section 7.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund read from a prepared statement:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The Language Section                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The  bulk  of  supplemental language  items  have  been                                                                    
     grouped  together  at  the beginning  of  the  language                                                                    
     section.    These    varying   supplemental    language                                                                    
     appropriations  could   be  for  either   operating  or                                                                    
     capital items, as well as  direct or 'inflexible' ARPA,                                                                    
     CRRSAA, CARES  or from other federal  acts that require                                                                    
     appropriation to be accepted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Sections 10    27 of the language section  are the bulk                                                                    
     of those  varying language supplemental items  for FY21                                                                    
     I just referred to                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The   remaining  sections   (28-59)  are   mainly  more                                                                    
     'normal' or 'usual' FY22 language appropriations                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:09:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund continued his remarks  about the proposed CS for                                                                    
SB  49. He  addressed the  substance of  the bill.  He noted                                                                    
that  there were  many reports  that  described the  funding                                                                    
laid out  in the CS in  varying degrees of detail.  He noted                                                                    
that there  would be  even more  detailed reports  posted on                                                                    
LFD's website after the hearing.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund highlighted that one  change incorporated in the                                                                    
CS  was the  many transactions  approved to  accommodate the                                                                    
Governor's  request  to   consolidate  human  resources  and                                                                    
procurement  into  the   Department  of  Administration.  He                                                                    
highlighted  that  it  was the  reason  that  members  might                                                                    
notice   small   differences  between   their   subcommittee                                                                    
recommendation and what was contained in the draft CS.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund  gave a high-level  overview of the  dollars and                                                                    
fund sources appropriated  in the bill. He  affirmed that he                                                                    
would list  all of the reports  in front of members  and may                                                                    
reference them  but did  not intend for  members to  look at                                                                    
the reports each  time. He noted he would  use round numbers                                                                    
for clarity.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund addressed the budget totals:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Totals                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     FY22 Operating totals                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
               All Funds      10.78 billion                                                                                     
               UGF            4.56 billion                                                                                      
               General funds  5.42 billion                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     FY21 Operating supplemental totals                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
               All funds      1.27 billion                                                                                      
               UGF            77.2 million                                                                                      
        General funds 76.1 million (neg DGF sup of                                                                              
               just over 1 M)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     FY21 Capital supplemental totals                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
               All funds      168.7 million                                                                                     
               UGF            10.2 million                                                                                      
               General funds 30.8 million                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund noted  that there was a typo  on member's sheets                                                                    
and that the capital supplemental  total should be for FY 21                                                                    
rather than FY 22.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ecklund addressed  a  packet of  reports  with a  cover                                                                    
sheet entitled  "CS1 Reports Master  Sheet" (copy  on file).                                                                    
The reports  went into detail  listing the fund  sources and                                                                    
dollars  in  the   CS.  He  noted  that   there  were  three                                                                    
spreadsheets  in the  packet,  which OMB  had presented  the                                                                    
previous  Friday.  The  spreadsheets covered  operating  and                                                                    
capital governor  supplemental requests  as well  as federal                                                                    
direct or 'inflexible' grant funds.  He noted that there was                                                                    
an added a Senate column  that denoted whether a request had                                                                    
been  included  in  the  CS. Further,  there  was  a  column                                                                    
labeled  'lang', which  stood for  'language'. He  clarified                                                                    
that  a  'Y'  in  that  column  denoted  that  an  item,  if                                                                    
included, could be  found in the language  section; while an                                                                    
'N'  in  the  column  instructed   that  if  that  item  was                                                                    
included,  it could  be found  in  the supplemental  numbers                                                                    
section.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:13:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund highlighted language items of note in the bill:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 14 (f)     the  Administration requested  extension                                                                    
     of   an   'estimated   to  be   $9   million   federal'                                                                    
     appropriation related  to CARES  act funding  from last                                                                    
     year, we are partially  granting that request. There is                                                                    
     approximately $331 million  of Coronavirus Relief Funds                                                                    
     (CRF)   associated    with   the   estimated    to   be                                                                    
     appropriation that  we are not rolling  forward to next                                                                    
     fiscal year                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 20    amends  the current  year 'Federal  and Other                                                                    
     Program   Receipts'  or   RPL  language,   to  restrict                                                                    
     designated program  and federal receipt  authority from                                                                    
     being   added  to   the   Alaska  Gasline   Development                                                                    
     Corporation and for natural gas pipeline expenditures.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     It also restricts  the RPL process from  being used for                                                                    
     the  'flexible' CRRSAA  DOTPF  funds  and the  flexible                                                                    
     ARPA  funds. This  section  further  restricts the  RPL                                                                    
     process   from  being   used  for   any  future   funds                                                                    
     appropriated by the  117th Congress for infrastructure,                                                                    
     jobs, or as part of  the American Jobs Plan and federal                                                                    
     funds related to economic recovery.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 21 (a) supplemental fund  cap of $21,315,700 of UGF                                                                    
     to the  Community Assistance Fund to  bring the balance                                                                    
     of the fund  to $90 million dollars so  the FY22 payout                                                                    
     to communities will be $30 million                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     (b)  $30 million  UGF to the Disaster  Relief Fund, the                                                                    
     Administration  had asked  for  a re-appropriation  for                                                                    
     this, we are using UGF                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     (c)  $6.7  million re-appropriation  of FY21  FAA match                                                                    
     that  is no  needed  for match,  to  the Alaska  Marine                                                                    
     Highway fund to bring the  AMHS fund balance up to zero                                                                    
     at the end of FY21                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 27    NPRA Impact  Grant Program, updated  the FY21                                                                    
     estimate  available and  listed out  the projects  that                                                                    
     are to receive funding in FY21                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 31    Updated    the    Alaska    Industrial    and                                                                    
     Development and Export  Authorities (AIDEA) dividend to                                                                    
     the correct amount, $17,305,000                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 32 (e) $2 billion  transfer from the Permanent Fund                                                                    
     Earnings Reserve  to the Corpus: leaving  9 billion 652                                                                    
     million of  spendable realized earnings  in the  ERA on                                                                    
     June 30th (based on March 31st statement)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 35    Carry forward language  allowing FY21 federal                                                                    
     funds from man-day billings to  be carried forward into                                                                    
     FY22 for the Anchorage Correctional Complex                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 37    Deleted: former  section 13 (e),  the request                                                                    
     to  carry forward  $35 million  of  Medicaid lapse  for                                                                    
     FY22 expenses                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 38    Deleted:  former section  14  (f) open  ended                                                                    
     federal authority  to the Dept of  Labor for employment                                                                    
     and training services                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
  Sec 40    Deleted:   former   section    16   (e)   re-                                                                       
     appropriation  request of  $5 million  in lapsing  fire                                                                    
     suppression funds  to DNR for  fire break  activities                                                                      
     will be addressed in the capital budget.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:18:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund continued to highlight notable language items:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 41 (b-j)   this  is  the  18-month  Marine  Highway                                                                    
     Funding plan.  The total  AMHS budget  for one  year is                                                                    
     proposed to  be the  same level the  Legislature passed                                                                    
     last year, $123.5  million. The proposal uses  a mix of                                                                    
     CRRSAA  FTA and  FHWA federal  funds (53,093,700),  UGF                                                                    
     ($66  million)  and  other   funds  ($4.4  million)  to                                                                    
     support   Marine  Highway   operations  for   the  next                                                                    
     calendar year.  This one-time  18-month plan  uses one-                                                                    
     time federal  funds to move  the funding of  the System                                                                    
     onto a calendar year basis.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Moving to calendar year funding  will allow managers to                                                                    
     get the  ferry schedule  out to the  public in  July or                                                                    
     August  for  the  following  calendar  year.  Having  a                                                                    
     reliable schedule out in advance  has shown to increase                                                                    
     system revenues by over $5 million dollars.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 41  (k) $10,525,400  dollars of federal  CRRSAA and                                                                    
     ARPA FTA funds for Coordinated Transportation Grants                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 41 (l)  $6 million of federal CRRSAA  grants to the                                                                    
     Inter-Island Ferry Authority  to replace their depleted                                                                    
     reserves and allow them to continue operation                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 44    debt  and  other  obligations    Deleted  the                                                                    
     former section 20, relating  to allowing the Department                                                                    
     of Revenue to issue Revenue Anticipation Notes                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 44 (L)     full  funding   for  school   bond  debt                                                                    
     reimbursement                                                                                                              
          $83,543,960                                                                                                           
          $52,744,460 UGF                                                                                                       
          $30,799,500 School Fund                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 45 (c) Same RPL restrictions as FY21, but for FY22                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 46  (g) $12,394,800  in FY22  from the  PCE formula                                                                    
     payment to the Community Assistance Fund                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 46  (h) $17,605,200 in  FY22 from the  general fund                                                                    
     to  the community  assistance fund  to  bring the  FY22                                                                    
     balance of  the C.A. Fund  to $90 million so  there can                                                                    
     be a $30 million dollar payout to communities in FY23.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sec  46 (k)  $34,238,00 from  the general  fund to  the                                                                    
     Regional Educational Attendance  Area (REAA) Fund (full                                                                    
     funding)                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Deleted:  former section 22 (u)  $50 million in program                                                                    
     receipt authority for AGDC for  deposit into the Alaska                                                                    
     liquefied natural gas project fund                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Deleted:  former  section  22  (v) open  ended  federal                                                                    
     receipt authority for AGDC                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 46 (u) Oil and gas  tax credits: not to exceed $114                                                                    
     million from the general fund.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sec  46 (v)  $100  thousand from  general fund  program                                                                    
     receipts  collected  by  DMV  to  the  abandoned  motor                                                                    
     vehicle  fund  for  removing  abandoned  vehicles  from                                                                    
     highways.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Sec  47 (L)  Fund  transfers:  authorizes repayment  of                                                                    
     WWAMI loans  to the Alaska Commission  on Postsecondary                                                                    
     Education  to be  deposited into  the Higher  Education                                                                    
     Fund, $504,044                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 47  (m) change  the estimate to  a zero  balance of                                                                    
     the large  passenger vessel gaming tax  account deposit                                                                    
     into the general fund.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sec 52  (a) Statutory Budget Reserve:  The unencumbered                                                                    
     balance of the Unrestricted  General Fund available for                                                                    
     lapse  on June  30, 2021  are appropriated  to the  SBR                                                                    
     (estimated to be $100 million)                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sec  52 (b)  the sum  of $325  million is  appropriated                                                                    
     from   the   general  fund   to   the   SBR  (an   FY21                                                                    
     appropriation)                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Deleted the Constitutional Budget Reserve sections                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Effective  Dates:  Made supplementals  effective  April                                                                    
     15th  for agency  supplemental funding  needs and  June                                                                    
     30th, for lapse and reappropriation provisions                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:23:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski  asked about Section 31  and the Alaska                                                                    
Industrial   Development   and  Export   Authority   (AIDEA)                                                                    
dividend, which  referred to the "correct  amount." He asked                                                                    
if there was a statutory formula for the dividend.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund affirmed that there  was a statutory formula for                                                                    
the AIDEA dividend.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski  asked if the  formula was for  a range                                                                    
or a set number.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund  could not  recall the  formula but  thought the                                                                    
amount would approximate half of the earnings.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  thought  the   committee  could  ask  the                                                                    
question of LFD.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  thought the general public  should be aware                                                                    
that  although the  Permanent Fund  Dividend  (PFD) was  not                                                                    
addressed in  the CS,  it was  the intent  of the  Senate to                                                                    
fund a PFD. He asked if his assumption was correct.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman affirmed that  Senator Hoffman was correct.                                                                    
He stated that the  topic of the PFD had yet  to be taken up                                                                    
by the committee. The committee's  intent was to work on the                                                                    
topic over  the following  two weeks.  he informed  that the                                                                    
proposed  $2   billion  transfer  from  the   corpus  was  a                                                                    
placeholder. The committee would  discuss and further review                                                                    
the  Earnings  Reserve Account  (ERA)  with  input from  all                                                                    
members as  to whether to  increase or decrease  the amount.                                                                    
He  recalled  that the  previous  legislature  had put  $4.9                                                                    
billion in as a transfer.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:26:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked how  $2 billion was  decided upon  as a                                                                    
placeholder.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman relayed  that he had grabbed  the number as                                                                    
a starting  point after consideration  of inflation-proofing                                                                    
numbers. He stated  that a data sheet would  be available to                                                                    
the  members when  the topic  was up  for consideration.  He                                                                    
thought it  would be  nice if members  had time  to consider                                                                    
the issue.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked about Section  41, and the  AMHS moving                                                                    
to an 18-month funding plan.  He wondered why the department                                                                    
would not go to a six-month funding plan.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman explained  that the  bill proposed  to add                                                                    
six months  of one-time  funding to the  AMHS appropriation,                                                                    
and  later adjustments  could be  made with  COVID-19 relief                                                                    
funds. The following  year would return to  a 12-month cycle                                                                    
with 6 months of lead time.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson asked about the  proposed deletion of the CBR                                                                    
section  and  asked if  there  would  need  to be  a  three-                                                                    
quarters vote to enact the proposed budget.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman stated there was  currently no need for the                                                                    
three-quarters  vote, but  as the  budget process  continued                                                                    
the provision would have to be put back in.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski  asked  about Section  44  (l),  which                                                                    
proposed full funding for school  bond deb reimbursement. He                                                                    
asked if the funding was  typical and normally drew from the                                                                    
School Fund.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ecklund  answered  in the  affirmative,  and  that  the                                                                    
number  used in  the CS  was the  amount available  that was                                                                    
unspent in other parts of the budget.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked about Section  46(u) pertaining to oil                                                                    
and  gas  tax  credits.  He  knew that  the  item  had  been                                                                    
discussed by the committee as  well as both bodies. He noted                                                                    
that  the language  for funding  the credits  used the  word                                                                    
"may,"  which had  been pointed  out many  times by  Senator                                                                    
Wielechowski; while  the language  for funding the  PFD used                                                                    
the word "shall." He felt  a little uncomfortable in funding                                                                    
the  credits  without  knowing  what  the  support  was  for                                                                    
different level of funding.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman thought  the original  submission was  for                                                                    
$60  million  and  there  had been  an  amendment  from  the                                                                    
administration that had been added.  He thought the item was                                                                    
open for discussion by the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked about discretionary capital funds.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  noted that  the committee  was considering                                                                    
the operating budget.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:31:50 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:31:55 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof asked about  Section 52(a) relating to the                                                                    
Statutory Budget  Reserve (SBR)  Fund, and  the sum  of $325                                                                    
million. She asked for explanation of the section.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   noted  that  the  issue   might  warrant                                                                    
discussion or  changes by the  committee. He  explained that                                                                    
that at  the end of the  fiscal year, the excess  revenue in                                                                    
the General  Fund was swept  into the CBR. The  action would                                                                    
"front-run"  the  balance  available  to sweep  to  the  CBR                                                                    
(which took  a three-quarter vote  to access) and put  it in                                                                    
the  SBR, which  only took  a  majority vote  to access.  He                                                                    
considered  that  the  action  would  make  the  funds  more                                                                    
accessible,  while  the  funding   amounts  in  the  state's                                                                    
accounts  would be  the same.  He anticipated  the committee                                                                    
would  discuss  the matter  and  had  the option  of  making                                                                    
changes. He  noted that LFD would  discuss projected account                                                                    
balances shortly.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman referenced  Section 32(e),  which addressed                                                                    
the transfer  of $2 billion  from the  ERA to the  corpus of                                                                    
the Permanent  Fund. He asked  how the proposal  was brought                                                                    
forward to be included in the budget.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought the state  needed to make  sure it                                                                    
was inflation-proofing  the Permanent Fund, and  even though                                                                    
there  was a  substantial appropriation  the previous  year,                                                                    
the  proposed appropriation  would be  an additional  amount                                                                    
into the constitutionally protected  portion of the fund. He                                                                    
reiterated that  the amount  was just  a starting  point for                                                                    
the  committee   to  consider.  He  acknowledged   that  the                                                                    
committee may  consider not doing the  appropriation at all,                                                                    
or changing the  amount. He thought the  committee needed to                                                                    
consider  a presentation  on the  Permanent Fund,  including                                                                    
the corpus  and the ERA. He  reminded that the PFD  came out                                                                    
of the  ERA. He estimated  that there was about  $10 billion                                                                    
unencumbered in  the ERA, and perhaps  $17 billion including                                                                    
encumbered funds.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:36:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman WITHDREW  his  OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it  was so ordered. The CS for  SB 49 was                                                                    
ADOPTED.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  encouraged members  to contact  his office                                                                    
with concerns  or proposed amendments by  midday Friday, and                                                                    
work with committee aides to resolve issues.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson MOVED to  ADOPT proposed committee substitute                                                                    
for SB 51, Work Draft 32-GS1508\G (Marx, 5/4/21).                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ecklund  explained that the dollars  appropriated in the                                                                    
mental  health  bill were  accounted  for  in the  operating                                                                    
budget reports.  He noted that  the other body  would remove                                                                    
the  capital projects  listed in  the bill,  and the  Senate                                                                    
would do the  opposite, so all items  were coferenceable. He                                                                    
highlighted that  there were  six proposed  capital projects                                                                    
in  the  mental  health  budget bill,  and  the  other  body                                                                    
removed five  of the projects.  The Senate proposed  to fund                                                                    
deferred  maintenance  and  accessibility  improvements  for                                                                    
$500,000.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman WITHDREW  his  OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:40:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEXEI  PAINTER,  DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
addressed an earlier question  by Senator Wielechowski about                                                                    
the  AIDEA dividend.  He specified  that the  AIDEA dividend                                                                    
could be anywhere  between 25 percent and 50  percent of net                                                                    
income, and the proposed  $17.3 million represented the full                                                                    
50 percent.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  discussed   a  presentation  entitled  "Fiscal                                                                    
Update with Senate Committee Substitute" (copy on file).                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter turned  to slide  2, "Fiscal  Summary Based  on                                                                    
Senate  Committee Substitute,"  which  showed a  table of  a                                                                    
fiscal summary  of SB  49. He detailed  that the  table went                                                                    
back to FY 20 and  showed the final budget and supplementals                                                                    
for  that  year. The  information  for  FY 21  included  the                                                                    
enacted budget  and the supplementals included  in the bill.                                                                    
Information  for  FY  22 only  included  the  appropriations                                                                    
listed   in  the   bill.  The   numbers  for   supplementals                                                                    
referenced by Mr. Ecklund were on  line 9 and line 12, which                                                                    
resulted in  a total  deficit for  FY 21  of just  over $600                                                                    
million. He  explained that if the  operating appropriations                                                                    
in  the   bill  for  FY   22  on   line  6  were   the  only                                                                    
appropriations,  there  would  be   a  $172.4  million  pre-                                                                    
transfer surplus.  After transfers there would  be a surplus                                                                    
of $157.8 million.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked if there  was an expectation that the                                                                    
capital budget would go against the $157.8 million.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  explained  that the  next  slide  showed  more                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:42:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter spoke  to slide 3, "Fiscal  Summary with Capital                                                                    
Budget  Placeholder,"   which  showed  a  table   using  the                                                                    
governor's  amended  capital  budget of  $62.2  million  and                                                                    
added UGF  in place of the  AHFC bonds. He relayed  that the                                                                    
bonds were in  a bill that had not advanced  very far in the                                                                    
legislative  process  and  were  not  relied  upon  for  the                                                                    
calculations. Adding  the two amounts together  would result                                                                    
in  a capital  budget of  $166.2 million  of UGF,  which was                                                                    
highlighted  in red  on line  10. He  summarized that  there                                                                    
would be a post-transfer deficit  of $8.4 million with using                                                                    
the  placeholder, and  the  amount could  end  up higher  or                                                                    
lower. He noted that the numerics did not reflect the PFD.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if Mr.  Painter was  indicating that                                                                    
the   state's  recurring   revenue  equaled   its  recurring                                                                    
expenses if  the legislature  paid all  the oil  tax credits                                                                    
and did not pay a PFD.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter answered in the affirmative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  reminded that there was  an estimation for                                                                    
the price of oil.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  agreed. He  thought as oil  prices went  up and                                                                    
down, the state could end up  with a surplus or deficit, and                                                                    
it was difficult to project.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter discussed  slide  4, Use  of  Lapsing Funds  in                                                                    
Senate CS":                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ?According to OMB, $100.7 million of FY21 UGF                                                                              
     appropriations are expected to lapse:                                                                                      
           $90.0 million in Medicaid (reduction from                                                                            
          previous $100.0 million                                                                                               
          $4 million in Department of Corrections                                                                               
          $5.7 million in Department of Education                                                                               
           $1.0 million in other agencies                                                                                       
           Senate CS directs this to the Statutory Budget                                                                       
          Reserve                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ?$75 million CBR direct appropriation for COVID 19                                                                         
     relief is also set to lapse to CBR as CARES Act made                                                                       
     it unnecessary                                                                                                             
           Governor  requested  reappropriating $30  million                                                                    
          of this  to the Disaster Relief  Fund and carrying                                                                    
          forward  the remaining  $45 million  to FY22  this                                                                    
         would require a ? vote of the legislature                                                                              
           Senate CS allows full amount to lapse to the                                                                         
          Constitutional Budget Reserve                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
       Direct  appropriations from the  CBR in  FY21 coupled                                                                    
     with  increased  oil  prices  leads  to  post  transfer                                                                    
     surplus in  FY21 estimated to  be $367.5  million after                                                                    
     supplemental appropriations                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   Senate CS includes $325.0 million appropriation from                                                                         
   general fund to SBR in FY21, essentially redirecting                                                                         
     this money from the CBR to the SBR"                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter noted  that in  the CS  for SB  49, the  $100.7                                                                    
million  was directed  towards the  SBR.  In the  governor's                                                                    
budget, $35 million of the  amount was reappropriated for FY                                                                    
22, and  in the  other body the  budget reflected  about $87                                                                    
million of Medicaid lapsing funds  were directed towards the                                                                    
FY 22 budget as well.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:46:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter continued  to address slide 4.  He recalled that                                                                    
the  previous  year the  legislature  had  funded about  one                                                                    
quarter  (about $980  million) of  the budget  directly from                                                                    
the CBR.  There was  a balanced  budget after  the transfer,                                                                    
however  higher revenue  led to  a projected  $367.5 million                                                                    
post-transfer surplus  for FY 21.  He explained that  the CS                                                                    
redirected $325 million  of the surplus to  the SBR. Instead                                                                    
of the  funds entirely  lapsing back to  the CBR,  a portion                                                                    
would go to the SBR.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson wondered  why  it was  necessary  to have  a                                                                    
three-quarters vote  for an appropriation from  the CBR, but                                                                    
not necessary to divert the funds to the SBR.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter explained that because  the funds were not being                                                                    
appropriated from  the CBR, the three-quarters  vote was not                                                                    
needed. However, at the end  of the year the sweep provision                                                                    
would capture  the funds because  the SBR was  a "sweepable"                                                                    
account. To  keep the funds out  of the CBR would  require a                                                                    
reverse-sweep three-quarters vote on July 1.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought the reverse  sweep could  occur on                                                                    
August 1  or September  1, whenever  the legislature  got to                                                                    
doing a reverse sweep.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter referenced slide  5, "Projected Reserve Balances                                                                    
in   Senate  Committee   Substitute   with  Capital   Budget                                                                    
Placeholder," which  showed a  table entitled  'CBR Balance'                                                                    
and a table entitled 'SBR  Balance.' The starting balance of                                                                    
the  CBR available  for appropriation  was  projected to  be                                                                    
about  $1.4 billion  for FY  21. He  highlighted that  about                                                                    
$980  of direct  appropriations that  came out  of the  CBR,                                                                    
while the  $75 million  from the COVID-19  appropriation and                                                                    
the  post-transfer  surplus  went   back  in,  and  the  SBR                                                                    
transfer came  out. All the  transactions roughly  netted an                                                                    
ending  balance of  $615 million.  Based on  the placeholder                                                                    
capital budget,  in FY 22  there would be some  deposits and                                                                    
earnings,  a  small  post-transfer deficit,  and  an  ending                                                                    
balance of $657 million.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter addressed  the SBR balance table  shown on slide                                                                    
5.  He  identified  that  the SBR  would  receive  the  $325                                                                    
million  appropriation, then  the  $1.7  million of  lapsing                                                                    
appropriations for  an ending balance of  $425.7 million and                                                                    
a  combined   $1  billion  in  reserves.   Without  the  SBR                                                                    
appropriations, the  CBR balance at  the end of FY  21 would                                                                    
be approximately $1 billion based on the CS.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:51:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  thought  the  committee  would  need  the                                                                    
assistance  of LFD  and perhaps  the  Alaska Permanent  Fund                                                                    
Corporation (APFC) to  get an estimate and  breakdown of the                                                                    
ERA. He also thought  assistance in understanding the amount                                                                    
of  the statutory  dividend  for  FY 22.  He  wanted LFD  to                                                                    
return  and  present  a wholistic  picture  for  members  to                                                                    
consider. He  referenced Senator Hoffman's  earlier question                                                                    
about  the inter-tangling  of  appropriations and  political                                                                    
relationships.  He  thought it  would  be  nice for  LFD  to                                                                    
present  some history  of contributions  into the  corpus of                                                                    
the Permanent  Fund in  order to  understand the  effects of                                                                    
contributions.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked the members to  communicate with his                                                                    
office regarding any data requests for LFD.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  for  Mr.  Painter  to  look  at  a                                                                    
hypothetical oil price  of $70/bbl for FY  22. He considered                                                                    
state revenues if oil prices were strong.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB  49  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SB  51  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman discussed  the  agenda  for the  following                                                                    
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 50 Supplemental All Funds-UGF-GF.pdf SFIN 5/5/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 50 Supplemental Capital Spreadsheet 5.5.21.pdf SFIN 5/5/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 50
SB 49 Supplemental All Funds-UGF-GF.pdf SFIN 5/5/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 49
SB 49 Supplemental Operating Spreadsheet 5.5.21.pdf SFIN 5/5/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 49
SB 49 Federal Direct Inflexible ARPA Spreadsheet 5.5.21.pdf SFIN 5/5/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 49
SB 49 OP All Funds-UGF-GF Summary.pdf SFIN 5/5/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 49
SB 49 CSSB 49-50-51 Reports Master Sheet.pdf SFIN 5/5/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 49
SB 49 work draft version N.pdf SFIN 5/5/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 49
SB 51 work draft version G.pdf SFIN 5/5/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 51
SB 49-SB 51 SFIN Fiscal Position 5-4-21.pdf SFIN 5/5/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 49
SB 51